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Apakah aliran Mahayana tidak mengenal masa vassa?
« on: 12 October 2010, 11:03:36 AM »
Dear all,
apakah dalam sekte Mahayana tidak ada masa vassa? Pertanyaan saya muncul karena baru saja kita kedatangan Master Thic Nath Hanh yang cukup lama berada di Asia (termasuk Indonesia) selama masa vassa.
Kalau bhiksu dari aliran Mahayana tidak mengenal masa vassa, lantas dengan cara bagaimana anggota sangha aliran Mahayana menghitung  berapa lama mereka menjalani kehidupan kebhiksuan/kebhiksunian? Apakah berdasarkan perhitungan tahun saja, atau bagaimana?
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Re: Apakah aliran Mahayana tidak mengenal masa vassa?
« Reply #1 on: 12 October 2010, 02:17:02 PM »
setahu saya penanggalan Waisak agak berbeda deh di Mahayana. jadi masa vassa pun agak berbeda.
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Re: Apakah aliran Mahayana tidak mengenal masa vassa?
« Reply #2 on: 12 October 2010, 02:21:36 PM »
setahu saya penanggalan Waisak agak berbeda deh di Mahayana. jadi masa vassa pun agak berbeda.

Waisak cuma beda seminggu

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Re: Apakah aliran Mahayana tidak mengenal masa vassa?
« Reply #3 on: 12 October 2010, 03:34:09 PM »
setahu saya penanggalan Waisak agak berbeda deh di Mahayana. jadi masa vassa pun agak berbeda.

Waisak cuma beda seminggu

atau Vinaya Mahayana lain kali ?
atau cara menghitung bukan dengan vassa tapi tahunan pakai jubah !

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Re: Apakah aliran Mahayana tidak mengenal masa vassa?
« Reply #4 on: 12 October 2010, 04:57:51 PM »
lagipula gak ngambil vinaya kan? langsung sila bodhisattva
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Re: Apakah aliran Mahayana tidak mengenal masa vassa?
« Reply #5 on: 12 October 2010, 05:07:18 PM »
setahu saya penanggalan Waisak agak berbeda deh di Mahayana. jadi masa vassa pun agak berbeda.

Waisak cuma beda seminggu

kok bisa? emangnya ngga sama2 pas bulan terang (full-moon)?
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Re: Apakah aliran Mahayana tidak mengenal masa vassa?
« Reply #6 on: 12 October 2010, 05:08:15 PM »
setahu saya penanggalan Waisak agak berbeda deh di Mahayana. jadi masa vassa pun agak berbeda.

Waisak cuma beda seminggu

kok bisa? emangnya ngga sama2 pas bulan terang (full-moon)?

biasanya secara mayahana dirayakan pada tgl ke-8, bukan -15

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Re: Apakah aliran Mahayana tidak mengenal masa vassa?
« Reply #7 on: 19 October 2010, 09:28:05 AM »
Mengenal. Yaitu 3 bulan sebelum Hari Ullambana (Hari Kathina menurut Mahayana).

Sedangkan untuk Sanghanya Thich Nhat Hanh mungkin sedikit bervarian.

The annual rain retreat is a long-held tradition since the Buddha's time. It is a time for monastics to live together in a community for 90 days (about 3 months) in order to deepen their study and practice. Plum Village's monastics in Europe and in North America hold the 90-day retreat in winter, while those in Asia hold it in summer during the rain season - from April 15 to July 15 (2010) of the lunar calendar.
http://www.pvfhk.org/index.php/activities/coming-activites/62-qengaged-buddhism-movementq-fnp-lecture-series-rain-retreat-2010

November 26, 2010 – February 26, 2010
90 days of practice -- please join us for this rare opportunity.

The Winter Retreat is special time of stillness and community life. The monks and nuns commit to stay together within the boundaries of our retreat center for 90 days.  During this time of contemplation and stillness, we strengthen our community life and concentrate on our practices of mindfulness and meditation. The Winter Retreat is equivalent to the three month varśa (rainy season) retreat held in monasteries of various Buddhist traditions. It dates back to the time of the Buddha when the monks and nuns were traveling and teaching the Dharma throughout various regions of India during the year. During the rainy season, when traveling became difficult, they collected together as a community to learn and practice the Dharma, and to share their way of life and experience in the practice. Today, the monastic members still continue this tradition of gathering together to practice for three months every year. We are happy to receive lay friends who wish to attend this special retreat and share their practice and way of life with us during this period. If you are already familiar with Plum Village practice and have attended our retreats in the past, you can apply to stay for the whole retreat.  Alternatively you can get a taste of this special retreat time by spending one or two weeks with us.
http://www.plumvillage.org/visiting/view/37/4.html

2009-2010 Dharma Talks from the Winter Retreat
Dear Dharma Friends,
For this 2009-2010 Winter Retreat, Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh, Thầy, gives Dharma talks only in Vietnamese with the theme "The Art of Happiness". We will try our very best to provide you the English and French translations of the Dharma talks. Thank you for your understanding. A lotus for you, a Buddha to be.
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In March, at the end of the three-month winter retreat, Thich Nhat Hanh and the Sangha offered a three-day retreat called Colors of Compassion, for people of color. Three hundred retreatants gathered to practice mindfulness, listen to teachings, and share with one another the experiences of joy and suffering that come from being a person of color.
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Jadi kiranya waktu ketika Thich Nhat Hanh datang ke Indonesia bukan pada masa varsa (rain retreat) beliau.

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Re: Apakah aliran Mahayana tidak mengenal masa vassa?
« Reply #8 on: 19 October 2010, 02:44:38 PM »
mahayana kan masa vasanya lebih cepet. kira2 seminggu setelah waisak