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Re: Jimat Agama Buddha
« Reply #30 on: 07 November 2008, 09:22:59 AM »
 [at]  atas
Apakah berdasarkan Abhidhamma, ada disebutkan pengertian "hati" ?
Mengapa kata "hati" tiba2 muncul di Dhammapada 183 ?

Apa yg bisa saya "lepaskan" jika saya memilih agama Buddha ?

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Re: Jimat Agama Buddha
« Reply #31 on: 07 November 2008, 09:53:38 AM »
kekya masalah penerjemahan saja

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The non-doing   of any evil,
the performance     of what's skillful,
the cleansing   of one's own mind:
   this is the teaching
   of the Awakened.
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Re: Jimat Agama Buddha
« Reply #32 on: 10 November 2008, 01:36:31 PM »
[at]  atas
Apakah berdasarkan Abhidhamma, ada disebutkan pengertian "hati" ?
Mengapa kata "hati" tiba2 muncul di Dhammapada 183 ?

dear fran

betul kata benz.... itu hanya masalah penterjemahan ke bhs indonesia aja

pun pernah dibahas dalam topik lain di DC ini......

dalam bahasa inggris "the cleansing of one's own mind", pun sebenarnya belum terlalu tepat karena mind biasanya cenderung ke pikiran/kesadaran saja...

jika saya boleh koreksi, yang lebih tepat adalah "sucikan batin"....

semoga bisa dimengerti

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Re: Jimat Agama Buddha
« Reply #33 on: 10 November 2008, 09:24:54 PM »
keknya batin paling kena jg mind, daripada soul :))
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Re: Jimat Agama Buddha
« Reply #34 on: 10 November 2008, 11:14:53 PM »
Kalo rupa atau tubuh kan inggrisnya physic.
Gimana kalo nama atau batin, drpd mind, mending diganti dgn psyche?
Cuman psyche dlm pengertian lain bisa berarti soul juga.. :|
Atau mental factors?  :-?

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Re: Jimat Agama Buddha
« Reply #35 on: 11 November 2008, 06:37:37 AM »
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psyche 1 |ˈsīkē| |ˈsaɪki| |ˈsʌɪki|
noun
the human soul, mind, or spirit : I will never really fathom the female psyche.


mind |mīnd|
noun
1 the element of a person that enables them to be aware of the world and their experiences, to think, and to feel; the faculty of consciousness and thought : as the thoughts ran through his mind, he came to a conclusion | people have the price they are prepared to pay settled in their minds.
• a person's mental processes contrasted with physical action : I wrote a letter in my mind.
2 a person's intellect : his keen mind.
• the state of normal mental functioning in a person : the strain has affected his mind.
• a person's memory : the company's name slips my mind.
• a person identified with their intellectual faculties : he was one of the greatest minds of his time.
3 a person's attention : I expect my employees to keep their minds on the job.
• the will or determination to achieve something : anyone can lose weight if they set their mind to it.
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Re: Jimat Agama Buddha
« Reply #36 on: 11 November 2008, 08:07:25 AM »
 [at] xuvie : mental factor itu adalah cetasika/faktor2 batin.....

 [at] benz : walau mendingan "mind", tapi tetep kurang matching  :P

kalo cek dari www.kamus.net sih, padanan batin adalah "mental" atau "inwardness"  :D

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Re: Jimat Agama Buddha
« Reply #37 on: 11 November 2008, 09:20:31 PM »
anumodana om markos buat penjelasannya.. maklum ndak mendalami abhidhamma hehe..
berarti ckp mental aja ya lebih cocok? :)

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Re: Jimat Agama Buddha
« Reply #38 on: 11 November 2008, 10:22:05 PM »
mental itu verb, nounnya mentality. itu sering dipakai berpasangan mentality-corporeality (nama-rupa)

mentality |menˈtalitē|
noun ( pl. -ties)
1 often derogatory the characteristic attitude of mind or way of thinking of a person or group : the yuppie mentality of the eighties.
2 the capacity for intelligent thought.

tapi kurang pas juga...
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Re: Jimat Agama Buddha
« Reply #39 on: 11 November 2008, 11:38:22 PM »
Hmm.. kamus inggris yg harus diupdet kalo gitu.. ntar kalo filosofi timur dah berkembang lebih jauh lg dlm kehidupan orang barat, cepat lambat pasti kata2 itu mengalami perkembangan arti lg ;D
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